From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 13:19:00 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Tue Jul 1 13:19:04 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] transparency? worried? Message-ID: <547562.78548.qm@web30105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Lynda Sirk Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:48 am Subject: E-news response Greetings, I am writing to ask that in light of continued discussions between Antioch University and Antioch College alumni regarding the transfer of the college to alumni, that you consider accepting periodic outreach from Antioch University intended to keep all Antioch stakeholders up to date about the college's future. I respectfully ask this because it is our goal to make sure that the outcome of any actions pertaining to Antioch College are swiftly and accurately conveyed to everyone with a direct interest in the institution. If it is still your decision to request removal from periodic communication, you may opt out of the news mailing list by selecting the opt out option at the bottom of the next communication. Sincerely, Andrzej Bloch Interim President Antioch College Lynda Sirk Director of Communications Antioch University lsirk@antioch-college.edu From dlbahr at hotmail.com Wed Jul 2 14:36:22 2008 From: dlbahr at hotmail.com (dl bahr) Date: Wed Jul 2 14:36:24 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] transparency? worried? In-Reply-To: <547562.78548.qm@web30105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <547562.78548.qm@web30105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Who was Linda Sirk sending this too? I am presuming this is a forwarded message to various lists. Who was it sent to? Can someone clarify please. Lesley A. Pownall Bahr > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:19:00 -0700 > From: jdwood5000@yahoo.com > To: acan@saveantioch.org; saveantioch@lists.antiochians.org; nyc@lists.antiochians.org; alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > CC: > Subject: [Alumni-chat] transparency? worried? > > From: Lynda Sirk > Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:48 am > Subject: E-news response > > Greetings, > > I am writing to ask that in light of continued discussions between Antioch > University and Antioch College alumni regarding the transfer of the > college to alumni, that you consider accepting periodic outreach from > Antioch University intended to keep all Antioch stakeholders up to date > about the college's future. > > I respectfully ask this because it is our goal to make sure that the > outcome of any actions pertaining to Antioch College are swiftly and > accurately conveyed to everyone with a direct interest in the > institution. > > If it is still your decision to request removal from periodic > communication, you may opt out of the news mailing list by selecting > the opt out option at the bottom of the next communication. > > Sincerely, > Andrzej Bloch > Interim President > Antioch College > > Lynda Sirk > Director of Communications > Antioch University > lsirk@antioch-college.edu > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 15:15:36 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Wed Jul 2 15:15:39 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] transparency? worried? In-Reply-To: <20080702183626.A513E63DD73F@w3.antioch.edu> Message-ID: <497507.97728.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I believe Sirk/Bloch sent this to all those who had requested that they be taken off the University mailing lists. *********************************************************** RE: [Alumni-chat] transparency? worried? Wednesday, July 2, 2008 2:36 PM From:"dl bahr" To: "Alumni Chat List" Who was Linda Sirk sending this too? I am presuming this is a forwarded message to various lists. Who was it sent to? Can someone clarify please. Lesley A. Pownall Bahr From theodora at imbris.com Wed Jul 2 17:19:20 2008 From: theodora at imbris.com (Pamela Olsen) Date: Wed Jul 2 17:19:55 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] job for student Message-ID: <807F9A28-AAF7-4DCB-A9DF-717D4B7399CE@imbris.com> Hi all, I realize this is a bit optimistic, but I have a job opportunity for a student here in wonderful Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, working in a small school for autistic and Aspergers kids, with an awesome teacher and awesome group of parents. State of the art techniques being used with these kids, and I'm learning a lot. Room could most likely be provided, they'd have to pay for food. I don't know if we can come up with pay. If there is someone interested, I can find out if there are any options. Pretty conservative community, but lots of nice mountains close enough. I wrote to Rowan about the job, but he's probably pretty busy. Anybody else I should be communicating with? Pam '68 From pas0705 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 19:51:17 2008 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Wed Jul 2 19:51:20 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] They Murdered our College, Mann Message-ID: <597095.25072.qm@web63915.mail.re1.yahoo.com> http://www.stormcoming.org/2008/07/01/they-murdered-our-college-mann/ Google Blogs Alert for: "antioch college" They murdered our college, Mann By stormcoming Mann was perhaps most known for his simple challenge presented to Antioch College students in the conclusion to his final commencement address at Antioch College not long before his death:. "I beseech you to treasure up in your hearts ... stormcoming - http://www.stormcoming.org/ From duffy at antioch-college.edu Wed Jul 9 13:49:09 2008 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Wed Jul 9 13:49:17 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] A midsummer's night dream Message-ID: Hello to all! It is finally summer in Ohio. Unlike many of the more recent years we have had the best rain at the right times so the corn IS an high as an elephant's eye and the corn tassel rains have yet to come. If corn is now a fuel crop Ohio may finally prosper. It feels like there are walls of corn lining the highway on the way home to Dayton. Actually pretty and bucolic. I am working for awhile with the CRF to assist alumni in various ways. For this interval I will be in the front office in the Big Gray Building at 716 Xenia Avenue...and in that office is also Fred Kraus. If you come to town......please stop by......you might get a big old hug...a snazzy non-stop tee-shirt( 100% cotton) and a pledge form even. The faculty and townsfolk of Yellow Springs are working non-stop on the Non-stop Liberal Arts Institute. Dennie Eagleson '71 is finishing up a DVD that will be a taste of this non stop frenzy by the faculty. Of course Dennie is being meticulous so have a small amount of patience for the release. I am type A so all this makes me suffer..I will plant garden seeds and then go out in two days and holler at them "where are you?" are we there yet? At this point 20 or so faculty will teach classes. And depending on the future everything may simply melt into village for awhile. A lucky tourist might stroll into the UnderDog cafe and find a roundtable discussion or a powerpoint going on. These twenty I have known for decades and they will be a promising seed core of faculty should we have that midsummer's nights dream come true. Some classes do seem like a dream....former Yellow Springs' News Editor, Don Wallis and Photography Professor Dennie Eagleson will teach a photojournalism course which involve photography and the art of oral interviews. Be sure to check out Don's book about a poor rural Black town in Indiana. ALL WE HAD WAS EACH OTHER. I tease Don by saying "Well, all he have is Don Wallis!" He is a passionate journalist... And non-stop things are definitely going to be findable in cyberspace very shortly. For starts there is already a facebook Non-Stop group. and there other surprises coming. Facebook is a great networking tool...not simply for the young....but well if you are YOUNG simply remember the sorta thing that Judge Judy might say...if you put something in cyberspace..it just might be out there forever and ever. Prudence anyone? A large number of Villagers are resolute and still solidly behind the College's legacy. First Giant Community Day and Potluck is next week...I plan to bring a nice sweet organic carrot, raisin, pineapple salad and pledge forms. If you are interested in getting involved in an any alumni events out in the real world feel free to contact me and I will try to hook you up to other Antiochians. want to build a chapter or hang out at events with fun folks...? why not? Tomorrow iI will finally become the equivalent of a Horace Mann Giver since I plan to donate a fair chunk of my final library paycheck to the Alumni ssociation (CRF) and the reasons for this is all of you. I wish had 100 million to give..... The richest thing in my life for the last thirty some years has been the thrill of watching folks arrive and work on their passions and dreams. with marvelous faculty as well. This has been a nurturing environment where people had the time to work on their dreams both here and in that outside world (aka co-op) I am grateful to have known so many and know without even hesitating that until the very end we had students who who so usual and wonderful... If you ever get me started I would hammer you with anecdotes...so many that even Katy Jako, the ultimate data hound would say uncle...and say maybe we have data. YSO is wonderul vibrant, cosmic and sometimes a little irregular. check it out. Gotta go...but wanted to stay in touch. another email contact for alumni who want to get involved in the "serendipitous" is buffaloduffy@gmail.com please give me a e-holler A little love and a little "corn"..from Ohio... Duffy '77 and the years since and well, there may even be the possibility of an unsanitzied blog at Antiochians.org but this will take awhile since this may be done by volunteers (and thanks to them for all that 3AM work, some of us have to hit the pillow after the 11PM news) From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 10 08:54:33 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Thu Jul 10 08:54:35 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero Message-ID: <718073.60969.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Antioch: Report From Ground Zero - By Paula Treichler http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2008/07/10/treichler From millhaven28 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 10 08:56:04 2008 From: millhaven28 at hotmail.com (ginger lines) Date: Thu Jul 10 08:56:06 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] A midsummer's night dream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We were missing you, Duffy. Good to hear from you. > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:49:09 -0400 > To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > From: duffy@antioch-college.edu > Subject: [Alumni-chat] A midsummer's night dream > > Hday! _________________________________________________________________ It?s a talkathon ? but it?s not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 10 09:34:05 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Thu Jul 10 09:34:07 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] re: job for student Message-ID: <769983.90165.qm@web30108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Pam! I just cross posted this to some of the other chat lists. ------------------------------------------ Pamela Olsen (theodora at imbris.com) Wed Jul 2 17:19:20 EDT 2008 Hi all, I realize this is a bit optimistic, but I have a job opportunity for a student here in wonderful Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, working in a small school for autistic and Aspergers kids, with an awesome teacher and awesome group of parents. State of the art techniques being used with these kids, and I'm learning a lot. Room could most likely be provided, they'd have to pay for food. I don't know if we can come up with pay. If there is someone interested, I can find out if there are any options. Pretty conservative community, but lots of nice mountains close enough. I wrote to Rowan about the job, but he's probably pretty busy. Anybody else I should be communicating with? Pam '68 From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 10 09:40:06 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Thu Jul 10 09:40:09 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: job for student Message-ID: <775737.35564.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Pam - This has been sent to Susan Eklund-Leen, who is one of the Nonstop Executive Collective leaders, and the only person located in Co-op at this point. Jeff Wood '88 > > ------------------------------ > > > > Hi all, I realize this is a bit optimistic, but I have > a job > > opportunity for a student here in wonderful Coeur > d'Alene, Idaho, > > working in a small school for autistic and Aspergers > kids, with an > > awesome teacher and awesome group of parents. State > of the art > > techniques being used with these kids, and I'm > learning a lot. > > > > Room could most likely be provided, they'd have to > pay for food. > > > > I don't know if we can come up with pay. If there > is someone > > interested, I can find out if there are any options. > > > > Pretty conservative community, but lots of nice > mountains close enough. > > > > I wrote to Rowan about the job, but he's probably > pretty busy. > > Anybody else I should be communicating with? > > > > Pam '68 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ACAN mailing list > > ACAN@saveantioch.org > > > http://saveantioch.org/mailman/listinfo/acan_saveantioch.org > > > > From davidrogerallen at hotmail.com Thu Jul 10 10:25:06 2008 From: davidrogerallen at hotmail.com (Tex Allen) Date: Thu Jul 10 10:25:08 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero In-Reply-To: <718073.60969.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <718073.60969.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: July 10, 08 Hi from Tex (aka David aka Yazz) Allen '66 (Email me directly at TexAllen@Hotmail.com): Paula Treichler's terrific INSIDE HIGHER ED article and break with the AU BOT mainstreamer closedown of Antioc College Ohio forces is VERY good news, and needs to be send to everybody. I've been writing articles about Antioch College Ohio and Its (Many) Enemies examining media attacks on Antioch College Ohio which have supported the closedown, and sources used by "anti-Antioch" people and groups. Here's a recent article about the infamous SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE spoof of the 1993 "Sexual Verbal Permission" policy, which includes the entire transcript of the SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE skit of infamy for those who didn't see it.. ---------------------------- Below is Antioch College Ohio history I've written about "Antioch and its (many) enemies" for the WWW.AntiRecord.Org" Antioch College Ohio interest/ watchdog site (est. 1998...the oldest one). The transcript of the infamous SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE spoof and attack on Antioch about the Sexual "permission" policy of 1993 is included....pretty intresting. Antioch College Ohio alumni continue efforts to bring the school back, though the entire campus is now shut down, and things seem pretty bad, presently. I hope you are well in California, living a healthy life.....losing weight, getting a lot of sleep each night, otherwise engaging in healthy activity! Best wishes always,David Allen (aka Tex aka Yazz) Allen '66 PS...My SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE Antioch and Its Enemies History article, FYI: Antioch College Ohio History: Part Two.....The Prosecution Makes Its Case...The Sexual Offense Policy details. SAT. NITE LIVE View Edit Your Story has been created. Sun, 2008-07-06 16:23 ? David Allen July 6, 08 Hi from Tex Allen, Antioch College Ohio alumnus (Email me directly at TexAllen@Hotmail.Com): Attacks on Antioch College Ohio by media personalities who themselves were Antioch College alumni were used as ammunition by naysayers anxious to support the Antioch College Ohio closedown which finally (and tragically) occured last June 30, 2008 (7 days ago!). People part of the Antioch alumni community dissatisfied with events and power personalities part of Antioch College voiced objections, and this was used by Antioch College Ohio critics and enemies to justify support of the Antioch College Ohio closedown. Antioch College Ohio was closed down importantly due to media attacks supporting the closedown (national right wing political writer George Will wrote an infamous attack in Fall of 2008, and there were many others by right wing writers and personalities of both fame and obscurity). Understanding the history of Antioch College Ohio, why it was shut down, and what part recollections of controversies part of Antioch College Ohio's past played, requires a knowledge and review of "Anti-Antioch public writing." What follows is a dredging up of the infamous Sexual Offense Prevention Policy of 1993 by a radio talk show host and journalist named David Benzion, who was (and is) an Antioch alumnus, class of 1994. He recounts the spoof of the Antioch SOPP on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE, the famous national TV comedy show, which used and named Antioch College in a now famous comedy skit. The point of the skit was to ridicule and defame Antioch College, and Mr. Benzion's writing about the subject is an example of public writing by Antioch alumni of media fame whose disapproval of parts of Antioch's past were used to justify the Antioch College Ohio closedown which occurred on June 30, 2008. Antioch College Ohio history can only be understood if the attacks on it (selective and self-interested) are studied carefully and also understood. What follows is a recent example which appeared in national media during the Fall of 2008, after the announcement of the Antioch University Board Of Trustees to close down Antioch College Ohio in 2008 was made, but before the final event occurred. Read it carefully. Students of Antioch College Ohio history must know how attacks on the school worked, what ideas were presented to support the attack in major media. --------------------------------- David Benzion, Antioch '94, now works in Texas as a radio talk show personality and also as a journalist. He responded to the Antioch Closedown crisis last Fall 2007 by providing readers with a transcript of the 1993 famous SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE comedy show spoof about the then new Antioch College "SOPP" policy which dealt with date rape and efforts to stop it. Benzion also recalled particulars about events and campus politics which led up to the policy achieving status and national notoriety, and recalled his own (failed) efforts to challenge the policy while he was an Antioch student. Below is a transcript of the SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE show about the Antioch SOPP (stands for "Sexual Offense Prevention Policy"), followed by David Benzion's recollections about his time as a student at Antioch and effort to challenge the policy. ------------------ Transcript of the SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE (1993) TV broadcast skit about Antioch College's then new widely publicized rules about sex between students: -------------- Is It Date Rape Dean Frederick Whitcomb.....Phil HartmanAriel Helpern-Strauss.....Shannen DohertyMark Strobel.....Chris FarleyMale Date Rape Player #1.....Mike MyersFemale Date Rape Player #1.....Melanie HutsellMale Date Rape Player #2.....Tim MeadowsFemale Date Rape Player #2.....Ellen Cleghorne [ open with the theme from "Casino Royale" ] Announcer: Live, from Antioch College in Antioch, Ohio.. it's time to play.. Audience: Is.. It.. Date Rape?! Announcer: ..with your host, the dean of intergender relations - Dean Frederick Whitcomb! [ Dean Frederick Whitcomb enters the game show stage ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Alright, ladies and gentlemen, students and faculty! We've got an exciting show! Back with us is our defending champion, she's a Junior and a major in Victimization Studies. Say hello to Ariel Helpern-Strauss! [ show Ariel at her podium ] And our challenger - he's a nose tackle and a Sigma Alpha Epsilon brother. Say hello to Mark Strobel! Mark Strobel: S! A! E! Yeah, yeah! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Welcome, players. Let's take a look at our board. The categories are: "Halter Top"; "She Was Drunk"; "I Was Drunk"; "Kegger"; "Off-Campus Kegger"; "She Led Me On"; "I Paid For Dinner": and "Ragin' Kegger". Alright. Ariel, you're our champion, the board is yours. [ lights bounce across the board squares, until Ariel presses her buzzer and stops the light on one of the squares ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: "She Led Me On"! [ reading card ] "It is the last day of school, a female student asks a male student to help her move her futon-" [ Ariel buzzes ] Helpern-Strauss? Ariel Helpern-Strauss: Date Rape! [ sound effect dings for a correct answer ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Well! [ laughs ] I didn't even finish the question.. but it is Date Rape! Okay, for those of you not familiar with the rules to our game, it's quite simple. Antioch College defines date rape as: any sexual contact or conduct between two or more persons, in which consent of such contact, which includes: the touching of thighs, genitals, buttocks, or the breast/chest area is not expressly obtained in a verbal manner. If the level of sexual intimacy increases during an interaction: ie. if two people move from kissing while fully clothed to undressing for direct physical contact, and the people involved do not express their clear verbal consent before moving to that level, that too is.. date rape." Alright! Mark.. you get the board! Mark Strobel: Come on, "Halter Top".. [ hits buzzer, lighting up one of the squares ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: "I Paid For Dinner"! [ reading card ] "She orders a steak and a shrimp cocktail.." Strobel? Mark Strobel: Not Date Rape. Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Ohhh.. sorry! Helpern-Strauss, would you like me to finish the question? Ariel Helpern-Strauss: Date Rape! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Correct! Mark Strobel: Come on! Surf 'n Turf?! That's like forty BUCKS, man! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Alright, let's move on.. Helpern-Strauss. [ Ariel hits her buzzer, lighting one of the squares ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: "Halter Top"! [ siren sounds ] Oh.. that siren means one thing. Here to help us with the question are the Antioch College Date Rape Players. [ curtain parts to reveal the two players in a scene together ] Male Date Rape Player #1: May I compliment you on your halter top? Female Date Rape Player #1: Yes. You may. Male Date Rape Player #1: It's very nice. May I kiss you on the mouth? Female Date Rape Player #1: Yes. I would like you to kiss me on the mouth. [ they kiss on the mouth ] Male Date Rape Player #1: May I elevate the level of sexual intimacy by feeling your buttocks? Female Date Rape Player #1: Yes. You have my permission. [ Male touches Female's buttocks ] Male Date Rape Player #1: May I raise the level yet again, and take my clothes off so that we could have intercourse? Female Date Rape Player #1: Yes. I am granting your request to have intercourse. [ scene ends ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Contestants? Ariel Helpern-Strauss: [ buzzes in ] Date Rape! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Ohhhh.. sorry! Mark, what do you say? Is it date rape? Mark Strobel: Uhhh.. oh, man! [ beats himself up ] Uhhh.. Date Rape? Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Ohhhh.. sorry! We were looking for "It is not date rape.." Not Date Rape. Mark Strobel: [ pounds his podium ] Oh! Man! I KNEW IT!! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: All right.. let's meet our contestants. Mark Strobel, you have been charged in three hazing deaths.. with two counts of hate speech, and one instance of sexual harrassment when you referred to the women's field hockey teams as, "a bunch of lezbos." Mark Strobel: [ smiling ] Glad to be here, Dean! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: All right! And over here, our lovely young champion. Ariel Helpern-Strauss: [ pounds her buzzer ] Take your hands off me! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Very good! That's good for 10 points, Ariel! And.. you've got the board! [ Mark hits his buzzer, lighting one of the squares ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: "Ragin' Kegger"! [ siren sounds ] All right.. once again, the Date Rape Players. [ curtain parts to reveal the two players in a scene together ] Male Date Rape Player #2: I sure had a nice time at that ragin' kegger. May I kiss you on the mouth. Female Date Rape Player #2: Yes. Kissing me on the mouth.. is sometihng I feel.. com-fort-a-ble with. [ they kiss on the mouth ] Mmmm.. that.. was nice! Male Date Rape Player #2: Would you mind if we had sexual intercourse? Female Date Rape Player #2: No.. [ Ariel buzzes in ] Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Helpern-Strauss? Ariel Helpern-Strauss: Date Rape! No always means no! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: That's correct! Good job, Ariel! A bit of a trick question there! [ final game buzzer sounds ] Well.. it looks like the round is over, and, Ariel, you are still our champion! Now, it's time for our Bonus Round. You know how it works, Mark. You have thirty seconds to win Ariel's consent. Are you ready, Mark? Mark Strobel: Okay.. Dean Frederick Whitcomb: Go! [ timer plays down, as Mark tries to win Ariel's consent ] Mark Strobel: I was wondering if, uh.. you're not busy, uh- Ariel Helpern-Strauss: No! Mark Strobel: There's gonna be a party at the frat house- Ariel Helpern-Strauss: No! Mark Strobel: Can I.. kiss you..? Ariel Helpern-Strauss: No! Mark Strobel: Can I put my hands on your buttocks..? Ariel Helpern-Strauss: No! Mark Strobel: Do you wanna do it, or what..? Ariel Helpern-Strauss: NO!! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: All right! Ariel! Congratulations! You win a trip.. for you and Mark to.. Acapulco! Ariel Helpern-Strauss: No-oh! Mark Strobel: Whoooooo!! Yeah! Hah hah hah! Whoo! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: You will spend two nights in Acapulco, at the Lover's Hideaway Beach Hotel! Ariel Helpern-Strauss: No! This is so wrong! Dean Frederick Whitcomb: I want to thank our contestants and the Date Rape Players. Come on, everybody! Let's give them a big kiss goodbye! Ariel Helpern-Strauss: No... no.. please.. [ fade ] ----------------------------------- Here is David Benzion's (Antioch '94) account of his time at Antioch College Ohio as un undergrad and connection with and opinions about the SOPP policy.....other aspects of Antioch College Ohio, it's history and its troubles, were ALSO included in his writing done in Fall 2007: ------------ The widely-publicized date-rape policy that catapulted Antioch onto Saturday Night Live and into nationwide ridicule in 1993 was a kind of object lesson in what can happen when demographic implosion (reducing the student body to its most radical core) unites with a laissez-faire administration philosophy that consists of giving even the most extreme factions everything they want. The extremists in this case consisted of a group of student feminists who called themselves ?Womyn of Antioch? (a title that might have sent up a red flag to administrators elsewhere) and claimed to be reacting to two incidents of date rape on the Yellow Springs campus in 1991, which they said the administration had ignored. No Antioch students were ever charged with those offenses either formally or informally, much less found by a college tribunal to have committed them, much less prosecuted for any crime by outside authorities. Antioch?s archivist Sanders said that the alleged rapes might have been more a matter of ?perception? than reality. Nonetheless, when the Womyn ?stormed? (the word comes from Antioch?s website) an Antioch community meeting and insisted on pushing through the policy they had drafted regardless of parliamentary niceties, the administrators and faculty who were supposed to be on at least an equal footing with the students at those meetings, if not their superiors on the basis of maturity and experience, said, oh, okay. I have the distinct honor of having been booed and hissed (hyssed?) by the ?Womyn of Antioch? at that exact meeting? my sins consisting of ? Being a man; Speaking out in favor of due process and civil liberties; In the course of my comments using the phrase ?don?t want to open a ?Pandora?s Box?? (?BOOOO!! HISSSS! How dare you employ a patriarchal, misogynistic trope!?) The Womyn-drafted sexual-offense policy read: ?Verbal consent should be obtained with each new level of physical and/or sexual contact/conduct in any given interaction, regardless of who initiates it. Asking ?Do you want to have sex with me?? is not enough. The request for consent must be specific to each act.? The penalty for even being accused of failing to obtain consent for one of the ?levels? was immediate expulsion without a hearing or any other rights. Not surprisingly, when word leaked out (it took a while) that Antioch?s board of trustees had actually approved the policy and made it official, the reaction of the non-Antioch general public was .??.??. laughter all around. One wag estimated that Antioch required a student seeking a home run in the baseball game of sex to ask for the consent of his beloved a total of 150 times. A few years later, after much media mockery and several threatened legal challenges over the lack of due process, Antioch modified the policy to bring it into line with other colleges? procedures for handling accusations of date rape and related sexual offenses. One of those ?threatened legal challenges? was from a foreign exchange student who was accused of rape by a woman whose romantic interest he had earlier declined? and who had a self-admitted history (sorry, ?herstory?) of false rape allegations. Self. Admitted. The night she was supposedly wrestled, pinned-down and violated, the man in question was in fact recovering from an accident that kept him (in full-neck brace) in bed and being fed a steady supply of high-octane pain-killers from the school nurse (an honorable woman, classic Vermont liberal, who insisted on telling the administration that the accusations against the man were ?complete crap?). Could a Hollywood screenwriter even contrive a scenario in which it was more clear that a man was being falsely accused of rape? And yet, the p.c.-bureaucracy at Antioch allowed this psychologically-agonizing farce to grind on for months, afraid of staring down the Womyn who ideologically had them by? well, I?m just going to say it, by the balls (717) 235 - 1982 TexAllen@Hotmail.Com 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361 > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:54:33 -0700> From: jdwood5000@yahoo.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero> > Antioch: Report From Ground Zero - By Paula Treichler> http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2008/07/10/treichler> > > > _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 10 11:14:51 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:14:54 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] infuriating news from Nancy Crow Message-ID: <700266.37938.qm@web30104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The news about the GLCA president's help and the grant monies from the Mellon and Morgan foundations is very good news.? The efforts of Nonstop, CRF and other alumni should be recognized and honored as they are in this newsletter.? Reunion was wonderful.? If only it stopped there. "At the recent University Board of Trustees meeting in Keene, New Hampshire, Tom Faecke assured the Facilities Committee of the University Board of Trustees that the University administration plans to preserve and maintain the buildings in compliance with applicable local building codes and expert guidelines and will consult with a historic preservation specialist with respect to the historic buildings." ~ Nancy Crow, Antioch College Alumni News 7-9-08 And yet taken from the very same YS News article that Nancy cites in her newsletter: "In an interview several weeks ago, Faecke said that the board had ?suggested? that he consult with an expert rather than directing him to do so, and that he planned to meet with Illinois architect John Padour, who had worked with the Stanley Consultants, the firm the university hired to conduct a facilities analysis. While Faecke agreed to meet with a consultant, he did not feel obligated to take the consultant?s advice, Faecke said in that interview. He also said it was premature to speak about whether he would follow a consultant?s advice because he did not yet know what that advice would be. However, he said, ?We will do everything within our means to preserve the buildings.? At the June trustees meeting, Faecke also reported to the trustees that he would follow standard procedures for mothballing buildings. However, several aspects of the campus shutdown so far vary considerably from guidelines for mothballing buildings as set out in the National Park Service Brief 32, which is considered the standard for the procedure, according to Glenn Harper, the manager of preservation for the Ohio Historical Society. Especially, Faecke has stated that, due to cost factors, the university will not provide minimal heat for buildings in winter nor air conditioning in summer. Harper, who is also an alumnus of Antioch, sent a letter to Murdock and Zucker in early June regarding his concerns about the campus shutdown. ?Our office is concerned that without at least minimal measures to mothball and stabilize the historic campus buildings during the period in which they will be closed, significant damage may occur,? Harper wrote. ?We strongly suggest that forced air ventilation be provided in the summer and at least minimal heat (45 to 50 degrees) be provided during the winter months. According to the National Park Service Brief 32, ?Mothballing Historic Buildings,? though closed up, a building?s interior can still be affected by exterior temperatures. Without proper ventilation and heating, moisture from condensation may damage plaster, cause paint to peel, stain woodwork and warp floors. If such conditions are allowed to continue, structural damage may occur from rot or insects attracted to moist conditions.? According to Faecke, if the consultant he meets with suggests maintaining a certain level of heat and ventilation, he will ?probably not? follow the expert?s advice, due to cost considerations. Faecke said he had responded to Harper?s letter, but declined to discuss his response. Asked if he agreed with recommendations that minimal heating and ventilation be maintained in mothballed buildings, Faecke said he did not." This is mind-boggling.? Actually no -- it's mind-numbing.? Again, I feel obligated to ask why this person who is offering us such blatantly inaccurate and massaged "news" is in the top leadership position of the Alumni Association.? Did she even read the YS News article that she refers to?? Either she did not or she assumes the alumni are completely stupid.? Neither of these are acceptable scenarios. Still more from Nancy: "[Miami Township Fire Chief Colin] Altman indicated that his greatest fear about the campus buildings is that folks might break in and leave lighted candles around; I'm pretty sure we can all agree not to do this." Nothing quite like being insulted by your Alumni Association president, eh? The alumni are the only ones who would be careless enough to do this, not anyone from outside the alumni community, right?? The only people careless enough to break in and leave lighted candles around are the people who've worked tirelessly for 13 months to raise awareness, raise millions of dollars to save the college and do Nonstop, right?? Those Antiochians remaining in Yellow Springs to build Nonstop and work at CRF can agree not to break in and leave lighted candles around, right?? Because surely nobody else from anywhere in the greater Miami Valley who has heard that Antioch College in sleepy little Yellow Springs is closed and abandoned now would have any curiosity in seeing what they could get away with, right? Still more: "the Alumni Board asked Matthew Derr '89, current Alumni Board Executive Committee member, and Lee Morgan '66, Antioch College Continuation Corporation member, to engage in informal discussions with members of the Antioch University Board of Trustees concerning the mechanics of separating Antioch College from the University." Informal discussions?? INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS?!?? The clock is ticking and these are just informal discussions?? When are FORMAL discussions supposed to be happening if they're not already underway? This is especially cruciel given that the campus is currently in substandard mothball status and subject to potentially significant damage RIGHT NOW. It is preposterous that the University can claim (and the AB to blindly believe) to be negotiating in good faith for a transfer of assets while they are acting in utter negligence and actively allowing the campus to degrade in such a manner. It seems like somebody has REALLY missed the Clue Train here. My apologies if some consider my tone to be too much here, but I am longing for some smart leadership that respects us and does not treat us like simpletons, thinking that a few sugary words of praise and succor will suffice.? It does not need to be confrontational or aggressive leadership, but it does need to be assertive and honest and it needs to support US, the alumni and faculty and staff and students who have worked so hard in this struggle.? It should not be trying to soften or defend indefensible positions like those of Tom Faecke.? It should not be insinuating that it's only alumni who would negligently burn down the campus and that this insinuation somehow closes the book on concerns about campus security. From theodora at imbris.com Thu Jul 10 13:08:02 2008 From: theodora at imbris.com (Pamela Olsen) Date: Thu Jul 10 13:08:37 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Maintaining the buildings Message-ID: <86DF0DCE-124A-4CBB-B4F7-45A16CA3EE36@imbris.com> THe BoT's saying they probably won't provide minimal heat and air- conditioning to the campus buildings is truly bizarre, and seems to me, warrants another lawsuit. I mean, I'm not generally litigious, but don't they have a responsibility, while talking about turning the campus over to us, to take care of it meanwhile, rather than trashing it? Especially since it's a historic monument? What are they trying to do? Lose everything they have in a lawsuit so the University goes down, too? Where did these jokers come from, anyway. How in the heck did they ever get authority to run an institution? From dlbahr at hotmail.com Fri Jul 11 11:11:31 2008 From: dlbahr at hotmail.com (dl bahr) Date: Fri Jul 11 11:11:34 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero In-Reply-To: <718073.60969.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <718073.60969.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great to find this link in my inbox this am. Thank you Paula. Very encouraging. I once learned in a West African dance class, it is important to make sure your steps forward are bigger than your steps back. Paula's words and the efforts of Lee Morgan and friends feel like steps forward. I for one am ready to be off the roller coaster of this last year and onto some solid ground. One thing that Yellow Springs and Antioch College has never lacked is imagination. May it remind Toni Murdock and Art Zucker & friends that they are not the inheritors of the name Antioch. Antioch College's founders borrowed the name of a great Eastern Mediterranean city for good reason and inspiration. These last weeks I have taken comfort from the Chronology listed in the front of the catalog ANTIOCH: THE LOST ANCIENT CITY . It endured through an amazing period of Middle Eastern history with many rises and falls. Indeed there is much in a name and in a place. This comforts me during this crazy year of a roller coaster ride for Antioch College in Yellow Springs, OH. Place does matter. Lesley A. Pownall Bahr > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:54:33 -0700 > From: jdwood5000@yahoo.com > To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero > > Antioch: Report From Ground Zero - By Paula Treichler > http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2008/07/10/treichler > > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ It?s a talkathon ? but it?s not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From duffy at antioch-college.edu Fri Jul 11 11:46:45 2008 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 11 11:46:49 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The next chapter in YOUR history Message-ID: Hello from Sunny Yellow Springs. I guess as we speak the next chapter in Antioch history is continuing to be written. with thousands of authors..and hopefully , thousands of gifts.. Yesterday on 716 Xenia Avenue, the Big Gray House where the Alumni Association has taken refuge... we had a moment of fun while we fun-draised. I wrote the largest check I have ever have written and it was, of course, from my final library pay check. So ironically I have become the equivalent of a Horace Mann Donor as I went out the door of the Big Olive (Kettering Library).....after 39 years...... As a person who really has never made much more than 80 dollars a day and put 10 in every day for gas...this was a little taxing. So I asked some friends to come and have an impromptu moment of giving with me. With a few calls using the little red YS phonebook (which lists families and even their pet's names with phone numbers btw) and with Judith Wolert-Maldonado's '05 email blast to a group of supportive villagers we had a dozen folks turn out for a YS News photo op. We surrounded Sheri with checks, pledge forms and folks waving dollar bills. That was a fun and fast 7,000 dollars. I am glad folks came..I hate cameras..so their company made it easier. and Wendy Ernst who works in the office was on the street trying to make us smile like babies in a stroller ... More folks might have come but it was a last minute thing and many folks were also at a meeting downtown at the Emporium (at the UNDERDOG Cafe) working on outreach and recruiting for the Non-stop Liberal Arts Institute. BTW there is now a fledgling website for the Institute!! and a group of two hundred supporters on Facebook.....and other viral marketing... Yesterday I was a little more nutz than usual..wondering whether folks and the YS NEWS would get there. (many moons ago when Ruth Churchill in the Testing Office analyzed my psychological profile she clucked and said.."Oh boy, you have an innate high anxiety level") Ruth knew everything and I would bet you folks from the 60's and 70's can vouch for her. She and later Katy were true escerpts about Institutional Reasearch and Evaluation. They just called the Testing Office because they tested the crap outta you. Folks did come and it was a great blue sky and low humidity day....but I did not want to photo op to happen until Al Denman got there......he as well as having been the college pastor and wonderful teacher , mentor and marathon runner was also the very first person to see that the College needed to have a governance system that would totally know about and nurture just the college......he was the father of Indpendence..so it meant alot to me for him to be in the picture....and Bob Baldwin '57 as well. Thanks to those folks who made the IPM dash Eric Miller, Evelyn Lamers, Anne Whitaker, Juan Gregorek, Nevin Mercede, Steve Bognar, Donna and Al Denman, Steve Bignar, Ken Huber (The one man picket line) , Judith Wolert-Maldonado, Bob Baldwin....and if I forgot someone well, my neurons are sizzling! Hopefully with our collective Antiochian imagination we can collectively concot some fun-draising events in multiple venues. Beach or park picnics, art galleries, restaurants, group trips to concerts. In YSO next week we will be having funb at the Farmer;'s market and a giant Community Potluck.......Ice cream socials anyone. If you want to write some of the next chapter and have fun think about CHAPTERS in your area and well....be serenditous and have fun. I hear that folks in New England will be having a Div Dance of Sorts. Stay in touch and be sure to have fun. Non stop fundraising for non stop and all the folks and things that we love. Crazy Duffy '77 P.S. Be sure to pass some gatorade and B vitamins around....and maybe have a spahgetti dinner....some of the ways to train from that marathon. Camus is quiet and clover studded today you can hear the birds singing but also the sounds of digital security camera installation and Stanley Steamer cleaning up stuff for AEA. also windows cracked open on the 2nd floor of McGregor........ventilation? who knows. BTW Thanks to Nina Myatt , 53 and retired urator of Antiochiana and endless warrior for the Big Olive...she planted a flower bed of pretty pink and purple petunias in the Library flower bed. and has been shelving trucks and moping as a volunteer. other blood, sweat and tears award today for Bob Devine....who has given much money and time and been a lightning rod like many of us. and Finally the factoid of the Day..a question asked by Ken Jenna Jurriaans '08 who is working on a book, I believe with Megan Rosenfeld '69.... who was the first female Maples' Fire Chief.... answer Lorka Munoz '88 Take care out there........and whadabou that next "CHAPTER"? From duffy at antioch-college.edu Fri Jul 11 11:53:31 2008 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 11 11:53:33 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The next chapter in YOUR history In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My own typos make me laff...it must be tat anxiety that Rutch Churchill was tawking about In the words of the great Sage Don't fall down. oops gotta go Duffy From davidrogerallen at hotmail.com Fri Jul 11 12:20:34 2008 From: davidrogerallen at hotmail.com (Tex Allen) Date: Fri Jul 11 12:20:35 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero In-Reply-To: References: <718073.60969.qm@web30101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The claim to exclusive rights to the name and word "ANTIOCH" under the increasingly ridiculous and Draconian "intellectual property" laws is wrong and should be refused, certainly challenged. (BTW, movies and books which used to be in the public domain are now "owned" as the long arm of "intellectual property" gets stretched to benefit a tiny minority....pretty soon Shakespeare and the King James Bible will be "intellectual property" somebody claims to own). "Antioch" is the name a famous ancient city once capital of the Syrian Empire, later important in the Roman Empire. Place locations are often used by varying groups as name titles. It doesn't belong to the McEducation empire Toni Murdock heads now without peskey residential Antioch College Ohio screwing up her dreams and plans for efficiency and no interference from Horace Mann's now closed school of fame from 1852-1008. Tex Allen, Antioch alumnus (717) 235 - 1982 TexAllen@Hotmail.Com 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361 > From: dlbahr@hotmail.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: RE: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:11:31 +0000> > > Great to find this link in my inbox this am.> > Thank you Paula. Very encouraging. > > I once learned in a West African dance class, it is important to make sure your steps forward are bigger than your steps back. Paula's words and the efforts of Lee Morgan and friends feel like steps forward. > > I for one am ready to be off the roller coaster of this last year and onto some solid ground. > > One thing that Yellow Springs and Antioch College has never lacked is imagination. May it remind Toni Murdock and Art Zucker & friends that they are not the inheritors of the name Antioch. > > Antioch College's founders borrowed the name of a great Eastern Mediterranean city for good reason and inspiration. These last weeks I have taken comfort from the Chronology listed in the front of the catalog ANTIOCH: THE LOST ANCIENT CITY . It endured through an amazing period of Middle Eastern history with many rises and falls. Indeed there is much in a name and in a place. This comforts me during this crazy year of a roller coaster ride for Antioch College in Yellow Springs, OH. Place does matter.> > Lesley A. Pownall Bahr> > > > > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:54:33 -0700> > From: jdwood5000@yahoo.com> > To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> > Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch: Report from Ground Zero> > > > Antioch: Report From Ground Zero - By Paula Treichler> > http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2008/07/10/treichler> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________> > Alumni-chat mailing list> > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today!> > _________________________________________________________________> It?s a talkathon ? but it?s not just talk.> http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk_______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ It?s a talkathon ? but it?s not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From millhaven28 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 11 14:51:09 2008 From: millhaven28 at hotmail.com (ginger lines) Date: Fri Jul 11 14:51:12 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The next chapter in YOUR history In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They were such good typos: I liked the camus is quiet. _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_072008 From duffy at antioch-college.edu Tue Jul 15 14:14:26 2008 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Tue Jul 15 14:15:03 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] red hairs and yentas Message-ID: This is Duffy....In a past life I must have a professional yenta...because I just love to have folks meet each other. All you folks throughout the decades must know .... folks at Antioch have bonded in ways other college students do not. We really rock.... Instead of fraternities we have had entities such as Maples (Volunteer fire department) and in more recent decades people have bonded by common interests....Science Interest Groups, Womyn's center, People of Color Groups (TWA< BAMN and Undidad) and the most whimsical one and popular The Red Haired Support Group (so popular that people were "dying" to get in". In you want to be involved in the ultimate Antioch interest or support group remember that your Alumni Association wants you to bond with each other. Antiochians of varying vintages can learn much from each other and have fun. If you want tp reconnect with your colleagues you can check Chapters out at Antiochians.org or you can feel free to bug or pester me to find you the connection. It would make the yenta in me very happy. I would love to help you reconnect....contact me buffaloduffy@gmail.com YOU can be instrumental in having fun at an alumni chapter and help create another chapter for Scott Sander's way in the future revised ed. of Antioch an episodic history. Yours from a tranquil and beautiful Yellow Springs. went to the Horace Mann Statue in the Glen last night. ...someone has painted Horace's shoes red. Just too outrageously fashionable.... I LOOK FORWARD TO ANY CONTACTS Much love to all Duffy '77 From theblazecollective at blazenews.org Thu Jul 17 01:58:38 2008 From: theblazecollective at blazenews.org (The Blaze Editorial Collective) Date: Thu Jul 17 01:58:45 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Thanks Guys! Message-ID: <5c80e3c0807162258j35995543i4faa97be3bafd1b4@mail.gmail.com> Hey Y'all, We have had over 100 visit The Blaze since the last article "And the Oscar Goes to?: Barbara Danley's Tenure: The Irreverent, Close-Enough, Razzie Edition" (http://blazenews.org/47/and-the-oscar-goes-to). That's a new record for us! Here at The Blaze, we are very excited about all this attention! I just want to take a moment to remind everyone that we are always very excited about getting more submissions. So if you have an article, or an idea for an article, that seems appropriate for publishing in The Blaze please drop us a line at submissions@blazenews.org we'd love to hear from you! Armed and Dangerous, The Blaze Editorial Collective -- The Blaze Editorial Collective blaze@blazenews.org http://blazenews.org "In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong." - John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - 2006) From davidrogerallen at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 10:18:15 2008 From: davidrogerallen at hotmail.com (Tex Allen) Date: Thu Jul 17 10:18:18 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Thanks Guys! In-Reply-To: <5c80e3c0807162258j35995543i4faa97be3bafd1b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c80e3c0807162258j35995543i4faa97be3bafd1b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: July 17, 2008 Hi from Tex Allen, Antioch College Ohio alumnus (Email me directly at TexAllen@Hotmail.Com): Support THE BLAZE cyberspace publication and other Antioch College Ohio watchdog/ interest websites, and non-cyberspace publications if / when they exist and arrive (cyberspace could disappear overnight if/ when the phone companies which connect the world's computers crash or end for any reason...this could happen, and it would be baaaaaaaaaaaaaack to mass produced paper communications of the sort which started with Gubenberg and dominated mass communications until the 1990's!...Never entirely abandon the "bombshelter mentality" or REALLY believe, with Dr. Pangloss from Voltaire's CANDIDE, that this is "the best of all possible worlds.") ALSO support OTHER Antioch College Ohio interest/ watchdog websites and communications efforts. Contribute writing, research, communications to 'em all! The OLDEST of these is WWW.AntiRecord.Org Antioch College Ohio interest/ watchdog website started in 1998 by Daniel Thomas "Yazz" Atlas, Antioch '97, who became a computer pro of great and high accomplishments after Antioch (see his impressive computer pro resume by searching WWW.Google.Com and hire him for well-paying computer comsulting jobs often!). The WWW.AntiRecord.Org site first had the controversial and dramatic title: WWW.AntiochSucks.Com and for a long time was the ONLY truly independent (i.e. NOT controlled by Antioch on-the-payroll workers/ officials) Antioch College Ohio website open to all commentators, friends or foes of Antioch College Ohio. Contribute to the WWW.AntiRecord.Org site and keep the memory and outrage about the wrong closing of Antioch College Ohio alive and out there in cyberspace. Articles which appear on the WWW.AntiRecord.Org site ALL get indexed and in time are available to search engines such as WWW.Google.Com sites available to researchers and others who want the truth about Antioch College Ohio unlikely to be provided by "official" voices controlling the school, or what remains of it. Subjects and personalities part of the Antioch College Ohio saga and story can be researched via WWW.Google.Com type search engines using only names or subject phrases as search terms once a substantial and well designed Antioch College Ohio interest/ watchdog website gets information, publishes it, and that information finds its way to search engines. All this keeps Antioch College Ohio ALIVE and REMEMBERED even though the bad guys have shut down the school, closed the buildings, kicked out the people, and turned the Antioch College Ohio campus we attended (alumni like me) and loved into a "has been" place. Again, good luck to and support THE BLAZE website and cyberspace publication, AND IN ADDITION support and never forget OTHER Antioch College Ohio interest websites available for YOUR words of wisdom and important information...including WWW.AntiRecord.Org Antioch College Ohio interest/ watchdog website, founded by and still managed by prominent California computer pro Daniel Thomas "Yazz" Atlas, Antioch '97 (site established in 1998...the oldest one!). Best wishes always, Tex Allen, Antioch alumnus and frequent contributor to WWW.AntiRecord.Org (717) 235 - 1982 TexAllen@Hotmail.Com 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:58:38 -0400> From: theblazecollective@blazenews.org> To: acan@antiochians.org; communications@antiochians.org; organizers@antiochians.org; alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> CC: > Subject: [Alumni-chat] Thanks Guys!> > Hey Y'all,> > We have had over 100 visit The Blaze since the last article "And the Oscar> Goes to?: Barbara Danley's Tenure: The Irreverent, Close-Enough, Razzie> Edition" (http://blazenews.org/47/and-the-oscar-goes-to). That's a new> record for us!> Here at The Blaze, we are very excited about all this attention!> > I just want to take a moment to remind everyone that we are always very> excited about getting more submissions. So if you have an article, or an> idea for an article, that seems appropriate for publishing in The Blaze please> drop us a line at submissions@blazenews.org we'd love to hear from you!> > Armed and Dangerous,> > The Blaze Editorial Collective> > -- > The Blaze Editorial Collective> > blaze@blazenews.org> http://blazenews.org> > "In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should> afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably,> contentedly, even happily wrong."> > - John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - 2006)> _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008 From pas0705 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 10:55:17 2008 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Thu Jul 17 10:55:21 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] YSNews this week Message-ID: <21107.67216.qm@web63914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Gellman-Danley to leave Antioch McGregor, join OBR http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2008/07/071708_danley.html Glen reaches out for support http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2008/07/071708_trailside.html Editorial http://www.ysnews.com/editorial/index.html (YSNews doesn't post their letters online; this week's editorial seem to be in response to a passionate letter from Michael Meyers.. dunno what in particular he's passionate about though -l) From pas0705 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 11:25:44 2008 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Thu Jul 17 11:25:47 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] missed one Message-ID: <883460.85683.qm@web63915.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Shuttering still cause for fire concern http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2008/07/071708_fireconcern.html From pas0705 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 12:08:31 2008 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Thu Jul 17 12:08:34 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fw: Statement on Danley's role in OBR certificate of authority Message-ID: <475117.10550.qm@web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> >From the YSNews article > > In January, Gellman-Danley took a sabbatical during which > she worked > for the OBR and helped to create the adult learning segment > of the > 10-year plan, which was launched during the spring. > > As part of her position, Gellman-Danley will be involved in > the > process of approving degree-granting authority to new > educational > institutions, according to Cheney, but she will not have > ultimate > authority. Most important in the degree-granting approval > process, he > said, is the position taken by the accrediting agency > rather than the > OBR. > > "We work with them through the process but we follow > their lead," he > said. A team of consultants is directly involved in making > the > decision, he said, and ultimate authority rests with > Fingerhut. > > If Antioch University trustees and Antioch College alumni > reach an > agreement for making the college independent, the OBR would > need to > approve the college's ability to grant degrees. > > Asked about her involvement in the degree-granting process > regarding > Antioch College, Gellman-Danley stated that "I will > have a role in > that, but it goes to the chancellor for the final > decision." > > _______________________________________________ > ACAN mailing list > ACAN@saveantioch.org > http://saveantioch.org/mailman/listinfo/acan_saveantioch.org From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 12:12:27 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Thu Jul 17 12:12:30 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] new Breaking News newsletter Message-ID: <490583.38029.qm@web30106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Now to me, THIS is the kind of communications that we've been clamoring on about.? Nicely done on this newsletter (with the-must-be-pointed-out amusing sidenote that "education" is not hyphenated): Antioch College Alumni Association Creates Framework for Plan to Open Independent Antioch College with Support from Antioch University Board of Trustees Great Lakes Colleges Association 535 W. William, Suite 301, Ann Arbor, MI 48103 www.glca.org July 17, 2008 -- The Antioch University Board of Trustees [Trustees] and the Board of Directors of the Antioch College Alumni Association [Alumni] have agreed to move expeditiously to create a new, fully independent, Antioch College to reopen at an early date. In response to a request from the Trustees to create a process for an independent Antioch College, the Alumni several weeks ago moved to create a collaborative taskforce to assist with the development of plans requested by the Trustees. The objective of this process is to craft a comprehensive strategy to allow Antioch College to begin to rebuild immediately as a fully independent institution while not jeopardizing the well-being or prospects for growth of the remaining academic campuses of Antioch University. The taskforce consists of two representatives of the Alumni (Matthew Derr and Lee Morgan), two representatives of the Trustees (Dan Fallon and Jack Merselis), and the Great Lakes Colleges Association serving as an "honest broker" to function as advisor and facilitator through its president, Richard Detweiler. The initial focus of the taskforce was to suggest a resolution, now adopted by both the Trustees and the Alumni, authorizing the task force to prepare a letter of intent outlining a full agreement. The resolution stipulates the shared premises of this work. The Corporation that is now Antioch University was called Antioch College prior to 1977 and includes, in addition to Antioch College, other campuses in Keene, NH, Los Angeles, CA, Santa Barbara, CA, Seattle, WA, and Yellow Springs, OH. The resolution emphasizes the common heritage shared by all of these institutions, and the commitment to separating Antioch College to stand alone as a fully independent residential liberal arts college. The taskforce is currently interviewing legal and financial professionals who, working with and building upon the earlier work of the University and alumni-related groups, will provide independent counsel to the taskforce on the many issues involved in separating the college from the university. The taskforce expects to retain these experts soon. Two grants of $50,000 each have been received in support of the work of the taskforce: one from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, and the other from the Morgan Family Foundation. The Taskforce is moving swiftly. It is the express wish of both the Alumni and the Trustees that an agreement be reached as soon as possible. ### Founded in 1962, the Great Lakes Colleges Association (GLCA) is a non-profit organization governed by twelve selective liberal arts colleges in the Midwest: Albion, Allegheny, Antioch, DePauw, Denison, Earlham, Hope, Kalamazoo, Kenyon, Oberlin, Ohio Wesleyan, Wabash, and Wooster. Its purpose is to strengthen and extend edu-cation in the tradition of the liberal arts and sciences. GLCA often works conjointly with similar associations of liberal arts colleges to enhance the strength and vitality of member institutions. For additional information contact: Charla White at 734.330.5122 or email at white@glca.org. From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 14:52:24 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Thu Jul 17 14:52:26 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] ACAA/AUBOT Framework and Resolution Message-ID: <904298.5979.qm@web30108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From Christian Feuerstein: PRESS RELEASE Antioch College Alumni Association Creates Framework for Plan to Open an Independent Antioch College with Support from Antioch University Board of Trustees Great Lakes Colleges Association 535 W. William, Suite 301, Ann Arbor, MI 48103 www.glca.org Phone: 734.661.2350 Fax: 734.661.2349 white@glca.org The Antioch University Board of Trustees [Trustees] and the Board of Directors of the Antioch College Alumni Association [Alumni] have agreed to move expeditiously to create a new, fully independent, Antioch College to reopen at an early date. In response to a request from the Trustees to create a process for an independent Antioch College, the Alumni sev-eral weeks ago moved to create a collaborative taskforce to assist with the development of plans requested by the Trustees. The objective of this process is to craft a comprehensive strategy to allow Antioch College to begin to rebuild immediately as a fully independent institution while not jeopardizing the well-being or prospects for growth of the remaining academic campuses of Antioch University. The taskforce consists of two representatives of the Alumni (Matthew Derr and Lee Morgan), two representatives of the Trustees (Dan Fallon and Jack Merselis), and the Great Lakes Colleges Association serving as an "honest broker" to function as advisor and fa-cilitator through its president, Richard Detweiler. The initial focus of the taskforce was to suggest a resolution, now adopted by both the Trustees and the Alumni, authorizing the task force to prepare a letter of intent outlining a full agreement. The resolution (full copy below) stipulates the shared premises of this work. The Corporation that is now Antioch University was called Antioch College prior to 1977 and includes, in addition to Antioch College, other campuses in Keene, NH, Los Angeles, CA, Santa Barbara, CA, Seattle, WA, and Yellow Springs, OH. The resolution emphasizes the common heritage shared by all of these institutions, and the commitment to separating Antioch College to stand alone as a fully inde-pendent residential liberal arts college. The taskforce is currently interviewing legal and financial professionals who, working with and building upon the earlier work of the University and alumni-related groups, will provide independent counsel to the taskforce on the many issues involved in separating the college from the university. The taskforce expects to retain these experts soon. Two grants of $50,000 each have been received in support of the work of the taskforce: one from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, and the other from the Morgan Family Foundation. The Taskforce is moving swiftly. It is the express wish of both the Alumni and the Trustees that an agreement be reached as soon as possible.? RESOLUTION WHEREAS, the elected Antioch College Alumni Association Board of Directors ("Alumni") agrees to collaborate with the Antioch University Board of Trustees ("Trustees") to create the neces-sary process and plans and to identify the resources to sustain and strengthen Antioch College, a historic liberal arts college in Yellow Springs, OH. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Alumni and the Trustees authorize a task force ("Task Force") to prepare a letter of intent for a proposed agreement to be presented jointly for their approval; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Task Force be comprised of two Alumni representatives, Matthew Derr ('89 Antioch College) and Lee Morgan ('66 Antioch College), and two Trustee representatives, Dan Fallon ('61 Antioch College) and Jack Merselis ('96 Antioch University New England). Richard Detweiler, president of the Great Lakes College Association, will also serve as a member of the Task Force as a neutral third party. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Alumni and Trustees agree that the Task Force will begin its work upon the following general premises: It is recognized that the terms stated in this resolution are not intended to be complete agreements, but instead as guidelines for the preparation of one or more definitive agreements between the parties. The resources to assist the Task Force will be administered with the assistance of the Great Lakes College Association, which will also serve as the locus for official communication. The Task Force will jointly retain professional expertise to assist it in this collaborative process and will build upon earlier accomplishments in order swiftly to achieve its purpose. The establishment of a separate non-profit corporation with 501(c)3 status and governance by an independent Board of Trustees represent the best avenue to vigor and long-term sustainability for Antioch College. Operations at Antioch College should resume at the earliest possible time. The corporation Antioch College was founded in 1852 and changed its name in 1977 to Antioch University. There is and always has been only one corporation. Therefore, Antioch College and other campuses of An-tioch University all share one historic legacy. Upon the separation of Antioch College, Antioch University is composed of campuses in Keene, NH; Los Angeles, CA; Santa Barbara, CA; Seattle, WA; Antioch University McGregor, Yellow Springs, OH; Antioch Education Abroad; and a University-wide Ph.D. program. The Alumni and Trustees will collaborate in developing a plan for an exchange of assets that does not jeopard-ize Antioch University's accreditation, creditors, or its financial well-being or prospects for growth, but that also allows Antioch College to begin to rebuild immediately. Endowment and other funds and grants restricted to or intended for the use of Antioch College, excluding An-tioch University, will become assets of Antioch College. Endowment and other funds and grants restricted to or intended for the use of Antioch University, excluding those funds and grants restricted to or intended for the use of Antioch College, are assets of Antioch Univer-sity. The Alumni, with the assistance of the Great Lakes College Association, will provide the Trustees with an outline of an expertly advised business plan for Antioch College. ? ### Founded in 1962, the Great Lakes Colleges Association (GLCA) is a non-profit organization governed by twelve selective liberal arts colleges in the Midwest: Albion, Allegheny, Antioch, DePauw, Denison, Earlham, Hope, Kalamazoo, Kenyon, Oberlin, Ohio Wesleyan, Wabash, and Wooster. Its purpose is to strengthen and extend edu-cation in the tradition of the liberal arts and sciences. GLCA often works conjointly with similar associations of liberal arts colleges to enhance the strength and vitality of member institutions. For additional information contact: Charla White at 734.330.5122 or email at white@glca.org. From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 16:06:59 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Thu Jul 17 16:07:03 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: [ACAN] ACAA/AUBOT Framework and Resolution In-Reply-To: <904298.5979.qm@web30108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <520952.12604.qm@web30106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This good, factual communication is much appreciated, as is the work of the Taskforce.? Special thanks to the President of the GLCA for his help. I have two points regarding item #8: The Alumni and Trustees will collaborate in developing a plan for an exchange of assets that does not jeopard-ize Antioch University's accreditation, creditors, or its financial well-being or prospects for growth, but that also allows Antioch College to begin to rebuild immediately. 1) I must forcefully reiterate previous concerns from alumni and historic preservationists that without immediate implementation of adequate climate control on the campus, the physical assets of the College are in danger. The AUBOT and University administration must understand that "good faith negotiations" require that they steward these buildings in a manner that does not cause them damage until they are released to our custody.? Currently, unless someone can definitely report otherwise, University administration is damaging these assets.? This is unnecessary and is disrespectful of the collaborative work underway.? Proper ventilation/air exchange must resume immediately and a heating plan for Fall/Winter/Spring must be developed and approved.? This is a non-negotiable issue. Can we please get an official response that speaks directly to this issue ASAP?? I hope we see (and are informed of) movement on this matter very, very soon. 2) It has widely been reported that several bonds rest on the collateral of the College campus, and that University books were manipulated in a manner which benefited the University at the expense of the College.? I hope that a sincere, honest analysis of these incidents is conducted and given due consideration in these discussions/negotiations. Jeff Wood '88 >From Christian Feuerstein: PRESS RELEASE Antioch College Alumni Association Creates Framework for Plan to Open an Independent Antioch College with Support from Antioch University Board of Trustees Great Lakes Colleges Association 535 W. William, Suite 301, Ann Arbor, MI 48103 www.glca.org Phone: 734.661.2350 Fax: 734.661.2349 white@glca.org The Antioch University Board of Trustees [Trustees] and the Board of Directors of the Antioch College Alumni Association [Alumni] have agreed to move expeditiously to create a new, fully independent, Antioch College to reopen at an early date. In response to a request from the Trustees to create a process for an independent Antioch College, the Alumni sev-eral weeks ago moved to create a collaborative taskforce to assist with the development of plans requested by the Trustees. The objective of this process is to craft a comprehensive strategy to allow Antioch College to begin to rebuild immediately as a fully independent institution while not jeopardizing the well-being or prospects for growth of the remaining academic campuses of Antioch University. The taskforce consists of two representatives of the Alumni (Matthew Derr and Lee Morgan), two representatives of the Trustees (Dan Fallon and Jack Merselis), and the Great Lakes Colleges Association serving as an "honest broker" to function as advisor and fa-cilitator through its president, Richard Detweiler. The initial focus of the taskforce was to suggest a resolution, now adopted by both the Trustees and the Alumni, authorizing the task force to prepare a letter of intent outlining a full agreement. The resolution (full copy below) stipulates the shared premises of this work. The Corporation that is now Antioch University was called Antioch College prior to 1977 and includes, in addition to Antioch College, other campuses in Keene, NH, Los Angeles, CA, Santa Barbara, CA, Seattle, WA, and Yellow Springs, OH. The resolution emphasizes the common heritage shared by all of these institutions, and the commitment to separating Antioch College to stand alone as a fully inde-pendent residential liberal arts college. The taskforce is currently interviewing legal and financial professionals who, working with and building upon the earlier work of the University and alumni-related groups, will provide independent counsel to the taskforce on the many issues involved in separating the college from the university. The taskforce expects to retain these experts soon. Two grants of $50,000 each have been received in support of the work of the taskforce: one from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, and the other from the Morgan Family Foundation. The Taskforce is moving swiftly. It is the express wish of both the Alumni and the Trustees that an agreement be reached as soon as possible.? RESOLUTION WHEREAS, the elected Antioch College Alumni Association Board of Directors ("Alumni") agrees to collaborate with the Antioch University Board of Trustees ("Trustees") to create the neces-sary process and plans and to identify the resources to sustain and strengthen Antioch College, a historic liberal arts college in Yellow Springs, OH. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Alumni and the Trustees authorize a task force ("Task Force") to prepare a letter of intent for a proposed agreement to be presented jointly for their approval; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Task Force be comprised of two Alumni representatives, Matthew Derr ('89 Antioch College) and Lee Morgan ('66 Antioch College), and two Trustee representatives, Dan Fallon ('61 Antioch College) and Jack Merselis ('96 Antioch University New England). Richard Detweiler, president of the Great Lakes College Association, will also serve as a member of the Task Force as a neutral third party. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Alumni and Trustees agree that the Task Force will begin its work upon the following general premises: It is recognized that the terms stated in this resolution are not intended to be complete agreements, but instead as guidelines for the preparation of one or more definitive agreements between the parties. The resources to assist the Task Force will be administered with the assistance of the Great Lakes College Association, which will also serve as the locus for official communication. The Task Force will jointly retain professional expertise to assist it in this collaborative process and will build upon earlier accomplishments in order swiftly to achieve its purpose. The establishment of a separate non-profit corporation with 501(c)3 status and governance by an independent Board of Trustees represent the best avenue to vigor and long-term sustainability for Antioch College. Operations at Antioch College should resume at the earliest possible time. The corporation Antioch College was founded in 1852 and changed its name in 1977 to Antioch University. There is and always has been only one corporation. Therefore, Antioch College and other campuses of An-tioch University all share one historic legacy. Upon the separation of Antioch College, Antioch University is composed of campuses in Keene, NH; Los Angeles, CA; Santa Barbara, CA; Seattle, WA; Antioch University McGregor, Yellow Springs, OH; Antioch Education Abroad; and a University-wide Ph.D. program. The Alumni and Trustees will collaborate in developing a plan for an exchange of assets that does not jeopard-ize Antioch University's accreditation, creditors, or its financial well-being or prospects for growth, but that also allows Antioch College to begin to rebuild immediately. Endowment and other funds and grants restricted to or intended for the use of Antioch College, excluding An-tioch University, will become assets of Antioch College. Endowment and other funds and grants restricted to or intended for the use of Antioch University, excluding those funds and grants restricted to or intended for the use of Antioch College, are assets of Antioch Univer-sity. The Alumni, with the assistance of the Great Lakes College Association, will provide the Trustees with an outline of an expertly advised business plan for Antioch College. ? ### Founded in 1962, the Great Lakes Colleges Association (GLCA) is a non-profit organization governed by twelve selective liberal arts colleges in the Midwest: Albion, Allegheny, Antioch, DePauw, Denison, Earlham, Hope, Kalamazoo, Kenyon, Oberlin, Ohio Wesleyan, Wabash, and Wooster. Its purpose is to strengthen and extend edu-cation in the tradition of the liberal arts and sciences. GLCA often works conjointly with similar associations of liberal arts colleges to enhance the strength and vitality of member institutions. For additional information contact: Charla White at 734.330.5122 or email at white@glca.org. From pas0705 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 09:42:03 2008 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Thu Jul 24 09:42:08 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] YS News Roll Message-ID: <505624.78553.qm@web63910.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Efforts at independence for Antioch College move ahead http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2008/07/072408_antioch.html (essentially a recap of the resolution) Faculty launches Nonstop http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2008/07/072408_nonstop.html From duffy at antioch-college.edu Thu Jul 24 13:28:31 2008 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Thu Jul 24 13:28:56 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Vietnamese "vermicelli" , suburbia and some deconstruction Message-ID: Normally I would say friends, romans and countrywomyn but this time let's try... Hello fifties' bohemians, sixties' hippies, seventies' radicals, eighties' business oriented types, nineties' nihilists and the new team working millenisls---all you different Antiochians... If you read Laura Fathauer's link you will see that , well, in Yellow Springs, folks do community building non-stop......and that is what makes us a treasure. Last night about fifteen of us Antiochians..which included faculty, alums, staff and last year's CM, Chelsea, went out to celebrate Chelsea's 23 rd berfday.. Good lord..she is old! Chelsea is an example of how awesome even the last crop of Antiochians can be....so smart and articulate that it is humbling. We went to a Vietnamese restaurant in Dayton..Little saigon..in a repurposed taco Bell. Of course when you get fifteen Antioch types in one place there is quite the conversation. Of course everyone compared everything and we started off by analyzing our respective orientations and graduations. and then went on to talk about what people really remember many many moons later. Then one of the faculty started sharing her interests in nonstop which was a course on Suburbia. So the talk was of all the themed suburbia movies people collectively knew or liked....or disliked. and novels as well. As we were delivered Vietnamese vermicelli ( I thought that combination of words to be odd), springrolls and the like, the conversation drifted to teaching styles and even at one point Ellen Borgersen talked about what it was like to be a Dean or Faculty at Stanford Law School and when faculty really know if you are "grasping it." The talk continued on after desert in the parking lot while the sky started turning fiery July red. Be sure to have your own local Antioch moment with peers and colleagues. (Find your local chapter) Although last night once folks got into the term deconstruction they occasionally were over my head so my energy went to the beef and snow peas. Anyhow..looking for stimulation? the answer could be right near you with a chapter event... If you want to reconnect give me an email holla buffaloduffy@gmail.com and we will find you a deconstruction expert and maybe some Vietnamese vermicelli? Much love to all and I would love to network with old and new friends. Your chapter, remember, can help our next chapter. Duffy '77 from YSO where it is oh so green this year and the corn IS as high as an elephant's eye. From juju70 at msn.com Fri Jul 25 16:48:29 2008 From: juju70 at msn.com (Judith Wolert-Maldonado) Date: Fri Jul 25 16:48:32 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Nonstop on WYSO Weekend: Sunday, July 27, 10:30 a.m. EST Message-ID: Dear all,Please tune in to WYSO today (Friday) at 5:04 p.m. EST during All Things Condidered, to hear a teaser/short-spot about efforts around the Nonstop Liberal Arts Institute and to hear an excerpt from Scott Warren's interview with WYSO's news director, Jerry Kenney. The interview was taped this past Wednesday.The full piece will be aired on WYSO this Sunday morning at 10:30 a.m. EST. I encourage all of you to join us in listening. You can listen from anywhere in the world, as long as you have an internet connection and can run Windows Media Player (WMP)on your computer. The link to listen live is: http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wyso/ppr/index.shtmlPlease forward this to all alumni and Antioch/Nonstop community members and allies in your networks so that we can all be listening togetherat 10:30 a.m. EST this Sunday. If someone can help us to forward this message to all AB and BOT members, it would be helpful.Let's set our alarms for Sunday, 10 a.m. EST!In solidarity,Judith "juju" Wolert-Maldonado, alumna & Yellow Springerjuju70@msn.com From eayres at comcast.net Sun Jul 27 10:21:01 2008 From: eayres at comcast.net (E. Daniel Ayres) Date: Sun Jul 27 10:21:54 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Corrected URL - 15 minutes before the broadcast. Message-ID: <000601c8eff4$0004c370$000e4a50$@net> The link Judith Wolert-Maldonado posted does not work. Use: http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wyso/ppr/index.shtml E. Daniel Ayres 734-395-9141 (cell) http://home.comcast.net/~eayres From dlbahr at hotmail.com Sun Jul 27 15:38:20 2008 From: dlbahr at hotmail.com (dl bahr) Date: Sun Jul 27 15:38:23 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] listening and Sunday brunching Message-ID: I just listened to interview with Scott Warren on WYSO. Sounds like Scott and Bob Devine will be teaching Revolutions in Theory and Practice in Lee Morgan's basement on Glen ST. I used to live next door to the Morgan's--I can remember when that basement was used for teenage rocker wannabes. Didn't Lee and Bob have two teenage sons who had a rock band--back there in the distance past? I guess like father like son or visa versa. Sounds like NonStop is moving right along. Maybe Eric Bates can come and report all about it for Rolling Stone. On July 13th at the MN Alumni brunch--Lee put a new twist on Dr. Lawry's inability to lead. Apparently Dr. Lawry never had any kids. He never had any boys wanting to be rock n' rollers. Is the new criteria for higher education, fatherhood, or let me not be sexist and say parenthood? Just pondering on all of this. It sounds like tuition will be around $2000 to become a NonStop student. We don't have much to spare, but maybe others do. Lesley A. Pownall Bahr Lake Wobegone, MN PS Last weekend at another Sunday brunch I got to hold a lock of Horace Mann's hair in the palm of my hand. Also Mary Peabody Mann's hair. It is quite a thing to contemplate how their hair and my hands came to be in Wright Co., Minnesota. Holding that hair I almost thought I heard someone whispering: "What has become of Antioch?" I wondered that myself staring out the window at the beautiful waters of Lake Wobegone. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008 From juju70 at msn.com Sun Jul 27 19:50:00 2008 From: juju70 at msn.com (Judith Wolert-Maldonado) Date: Sun Jul 27 19:50:02 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Listen to archived WYSO Weekend interview with Scott Warren In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all, The Nonstop Liberal Arts Institute story hit the airwaves today (July 27, 2008) on WYSO! For those who missed today's broadcast of Jerry Kenney's interview with Scott Warren, faculty member, you can listen to the archived interview at the following link: http://publicbroadcasting.net/wyso/arts.artsmain?action=viewArticle&id=1326271&sid=17 This interview came out of a request to Mr. Kenney (WYSO news director) for equal airtime to be given to the Nonstop voice,in response to the weekly, "Conversations With the Chancellor" interviews done with Toni Murdock. Thanks for listening and please consider letting the WYSO staff know that you are listening from cities and towns across the nation and support any fair and balancedcoverage that they can continue to give to the Antioch College/Nonstop Liberal Arts Institute story. Despite the delicate situation under which the WYSO staff are currently working under (having to answer to the University administration),several of them have expressed to Scott and I that they are profoundly interested in and committed to covering the "Nonstop" story. The WYSO email is: wyso@wyso.org Best wishes, juju Judith Wolert-Maldonado juju70@msn.com From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 10:19:17 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Mon Jul 28 10:19:22 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] NYC Chapter Meeting 7/29 Message-ID: <86982.93559.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What: NYC Antioch Community Chapter meeting When: Tuesday Jul 29 7:30 PM ? till 9:30 PM Where: 153 West 119th Street New York, New York 10026 212 932-3181 ? Directions Between Lenox (6th Ave) and Adam Clayton Powell (7th Ave) Take 2 or 3 train to 116th walk up short two blocks turn left From aspalt at att.net Mon Jul 28 17:35:31 2008 From: aspalt at att.net (Allen Spalt) Date: Mon Jul 28 17:32:13 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] NC Chapter meeting August 10th, 4: PM, Chapel Hill Message-ID: The North Carolina Antioch College Alumni Chapter will meet Sunday, August 10th at 4: PM, at The People's Channel office, 300 AC South Elliott Road, Chapel Hill, for updates, strategy, and ice cream. For more information or directions call Chad Johnston at The Peoples Channel, (919) 960-0088, or me. Allen Spalt, Carrboro, NC, (919) 967-3054 Note my new e-mail address: aspalt at att.net From jdwood5000 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 30 12:38:02 2008 From: jdwood5000 at yahoo.com (j.d.wood) Date: Wed Jul 30 12:38:05 2008 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Response to UU attack in TN? Message-ID: <181874.48601.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I recall that at one point there was a flurry of activity on the lists to engage the Unitarian Universalists in the struggle to save Antioch College.? I was not one of those people but thought it appropriate to put out to the list that those previously involved might consider crafting a statement of support/condolences in light of the brutal shooting attack in Knoxville, TN. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/93126/ http://www.wbir.com/news/breaking/story.aspx?storyid=61322&catid=29