[Alumni-chat] Respect the students

Wed Jan 9 13:18:57 EST 2008

Antioch College¹s core philosophy of experiential learning and community
governance is based on the belief that Antioch students are not children,
but young adults responsible for engaging in their community and the larger
world.  The mess of the renewal plan, the suspension of operations, and even
the revival fund, have been marred by top-down decision making disconnected
from those affected by the decisions.  Getting student representation on the
College Board of Trustees would be a step in the right direction of
restoring community governance and accountability and living up to Antioch¹s
ideals. Antioch students have faced enough disrespect from administrators
and trustees, they don¹t need it from alumni too.

--Ed M. Koziarski Œ97

on 1/9/08 11:54 AM, YAZZ Allen at davidrogerallen at hotmail.com wrote:

> 
> Jan. 9, 08
>  
> Hi from Yazz (David) Allen '66 (Email me directly at YazzAllen at Yahoo.Com):
>  
> I don't think having any student trustees at all, even non-voting ones, is a
> good idea.
>  
> Antioch College has had terrible trouble with bad trustee decisions since 1975
> when Trustee Chairman Larry Pearl '55 publically fired Dr. Jim Dixon '38,
> Antioch College's last high-quality president (people who rightly identify the
> 60's and early 70's as "The Golden Age Of Antioch College in the 20th Century"
> can't logically buy into the unwarranted scapegoating of Dr. Dixon as the guy
> who caused Antioch's decline after he left.....the last time Antioch was truly
> a national school with a positive worldwide reputation was under his
> watch...he was very good, defamation of him after he left was self-interested
> and ignores the fact that Antioch was in very good shape under his long and
> reliable leadership where he faced eye-crossing decisions and, all said and
> done, didn't come out badly doing what he did).
>  
> The big problem Antioch College faces now (2008) is somehow getting good
> people to join the Trustees so good on-the-payroll leadership can be recruited
> and retained.
>  
> The grossly idiotic and outrageous (hyperbolic way of putting it, I admit, but
> soooooooooooo true!) decision of the Antioch U. Board Of Trustees to shut
> Antioch College down completely in June 2008 reflects....well....LOW quality
> in the thinking and decision making of the then current Trustees (most still
> there, still in charge).
>  
> The hiring of Dr. Steve Lawry, now mercifully (for Antioch's sake) departed,
> is yet another recent example of "lack of quality at the VERY top."  Lawry
> wasn't a good Antioch College President, a good choice for President, and he
> shouldn't have been hired in the first place, just as Antioch College should
> have been threatened by it's own Trustees with closedown in July 2008.
>  
>  
> But back to students being part of the Trustees!...............
>  
> We don't need kids (which people not yet finished with college all are, bless
> 'em) to be part of what already is a mess.
>  
> Let the Antioch College Community Manager be a periodic visitor to some (not
> all, and maybe not any) Board Of Trustees meetings, and have communications
> with Board members who need input re: what's going with students, etc., etc.
> That's enough.
>  
> It is so very important NOT to let ideals of democracy and "including
> everybody and all voices" further screw up the already doubtful system of
> selection of Trustees for Antioch College.
>  
> We need (and haven't had in a LONG time) smart, worthy people as Trustees.
>  
> Some people shouldn't be invited to the table as concerns Trustee selection,
> and children not yet finished college with not much experience with "Life
> after college" are not likely good candidates for trustee memberships.
>  
> It's time to get sober about Antioch College leadership, especially as it
> concerns the Trustees, who should solve Antioch College's problems, and NOT
> cause big problems, as has been the case often since 1975.
>  
> Best wishes always,
> Yazz (David) Allen '66
>  
>  
> 
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> "Student Trustees wanted" (see how other places do it?!?!)> > At Ohio State;
> via the OSU Lantern:>
> ">http://media.www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2008/01/09/Campu
> s/Student.Trustees.Wanted-3148155.shtml>
> <http://media.www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2008/01/09/Campus
> /Student.Trustees.Wanted-3148155.shtml>  > The Student Trustee Selection
> Committee is accepting> applications for the graduate and professional student
> position> on the Ohio State Board of Trustees.> > "The student trustees at
> Ohio State, while they are the only> nonvoting member of the board, are fully
> involved in all board> meetings including executive session," said David
> Frantz,> secretary of the board.> > There are two student trustees at OSU, one
> undergraduate student> and one graduate or professional student. They are
> responsible> for representing the citizens of Ohio and providing a student>
> perspective to the discussions and decisions at the board level,> said
> Christopher Alvarez-Breckenridge, the current graduate> student trustee. His
> term ends in May.> > Alvarez-Breckenridge, a medical and doctoral student,
> said the> student trustees serve two-year terms and are chosen through a>
> process that begins with a written application and ends with an> appointment
> by the governor.> > The 2008 applications are being accepted from graduate or>
> professional students who have at least two years left at OSU.> > The student
> trustee positions require a huge time commitment and> applicants must have a
> strong work ethic, good articulation and> the ability to absorb information
> quickly, Frantz said. They> also must be willing and able to work on behalf of
> the> institution to make OSU the best university it can be.> > The written
> application is about five pages long and is reviewed> by the Student Trustee
> Selection Committee, which is made up of> student government presidents and
> other appointed students, said> Debra Van Camp, a junior in food science and
> nutrition and> agribusiness and applied economics and is the current>
> undergraduate student trustee.> > The selection committee interviews 10 to 12
> students and then> chooses five applications to be forwarded to the
> governor's> office, she said. Then, there are more interviews and the>
> governor's office eventually makes the appointment.> > Alvarez-Breckenridge
> said that although the application process> is long it should not discourage
> students from applying because> it is a great learning experience in how OSU
> operates and fits> into the context of the state of Ohio.> >
> Alvarez-Breckenridge said serving as a student trustee has> taught him many
> valuable lessons he will take with him long> after his term ends.> > "It was a
> tremendously worthwhile experience," he said. "I found> that being on the
> Board of Trustees (and) the things that you> learn in that setting percolate
> through not just your position> as a student trustee, but essentially all
> aspects of your life."> > Anyone interested in applying for the student
> trustee position> should download the application at www.trustees.osu.edu.>
> Applications are due Jan. 25.> > Lindsay Betz can be reached at
> betz.49 at osu.edu.> > > > >
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