[Alumni-chat] Alumni-chat Digest, Vol 7, Issue 18

[Don Wallace]

Good

Good points!  Not only was I able to avoid significant debt but I never
faced an interest rate above about 3 1/2% when I had to borrow. 

Two of the medical schools to which I was accepted made it very clear during
their recruitment that that cost would never be a cause to leave medical
school.   

Don Wallace

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From: Travis Sanford (travissanford at msn.com)
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Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] Alumni-chat Digest, Vol 7, Issue 18

Depends on what you mean by financial aid. Do you mean long term debt at a
low rate of interest but still enough debt to make any hope of say starting
a business right out of college or buy a house, start investing for
retirement etc? Then yes it can be pretty darn good. The last time I checked
the maximum federally backed student loan debt that could be aquired for
undergraduate education as $70K Which a poor student to Antioch could easily
aquire over the course of four years.  

When I attended Antioch in the early 1990's the college essentially gave me
the difference between what they calculated as my portion and what I could
take on in fed debt and grants. My tuition, r&B, was 15K when I started and
17.5K when I graduated. This did not of course include travel expenses,
co-op expenses, the occasional beer, calazone and movie.

I entered Antioch as a 21 year-old who had already travelled all over the
world and the US and worked lucerative stints in construction. I had given
most of my savings to my family to invest in their 401(k)s with the promise
of it coming back out as I needed it.. That first year I got $2K in pell
grants, the college calculated my share to be $6K, FWSP about $750, leaving
about $7000 I had to borrow. 

I started with about $18K saved. After giving up that first $6K I spent
another $6K in travel and living expenses while on Co-op that typically paid
a stipend of $200 a week. 

By the time I graduated I owed about $32K at 7%. I had spent every dime I
had saved from before. That $32K would have been manageable had I not got it
into my brain that I needed to be a doctor which required post-bach work at
an astoundingly overpriced cost from San Francisco State by the time I was
actually applying to med schools I had sunk another $30K in what were billed
as graduate student fees. 

So just in essentially undergraduate education I got up to $62K. Combine
that with what came after ( not one but two drop outs from professional
degree programs) and my debt rose to nearly $100K.

All of this was of course my doing. I choose switch my life plan around and
had to go back to school to the fill the gaps, where as if I had gone
directly to law school or a PhD I would not have aquired the intermediate
debt from SFSU. 

Now if I had stayed in either of the professions I thought I wanted to do
the debt would have been a distraction but my potential earning power would
have been very good, secure and not to far off.

I went all entrepenuer though and this debt has been a gorilla on my back
the whole time. If someone had just given me $100K business loan to start up
I would have gotten better use of the money.

Short story long a poor kid going to an Antioch that, astoundingly, costs
$34K  they could easily graduate with $50K in debt. Now considering our
propensity, at least at first, for progressive and social work imagine
trying to pay off $50K as a... Coordinator for a not-for-profit in SF or NYC
or amywhere less expensive.

It is staggering.