[Alumni-chat] What will the BOT do?
lwollin
lucy.wollin at verizon.net
Mon Sep 3 18:44:15 EDT 2007
That was my era. Freshmen could elect to spend the whole year on campus,
which I chose to do. I think I agree with Barry Hollister. Of course, I was
a lit major, but the important thing about the first year was that I got to
see both A and B divs and get acclimated. I was 16 when I entered in the
fall of '56, so it was just as well. One summer term I got to take 10
credits of Shakespeare. Heaven!
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From: "bdevine (bdevine at antioch-college.edu)"
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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] What will the BOT do?
>
>>In a message dated 9/3/2007 12:54:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> Barry Hollister used to contend that the best schedule Antioch ever had
>> was
>>the "Old (or sometimes Old Old) plan. There were four sessions, the first
>>two just 8 weeks long, and the second two 16 weeks long, thus all students
>>on
>>co-op returned to their job after a period on campus. It also was the
>>true
>>meaning of Co-op -- two students cooperating to hold down and service one
>>job.
>>One disadvantage, some freshmen went on co-op before they begin their
>>first
>>period of study. In this plan, which ended in 55 or 56, most classes
>>were
>>split, one took the first third of a course, went on co-op, and then
>>returned
>>to finish the class. An advantage, students in some fields could "read
>>ahead"
>>in a course while on co-op. In particular those in History and
>>Literature
>>favored the Old Old Plan. Barry Hollister also thought most co-op
>>employers
>>did too, as they had their student employees for almost six months. This
>>was
>>also the most economical plan for the college -- it used the campus
>>resources
>>fully for most of the year, with students paying tuition and fees to
>>sustain
>>personnel and buildings, etc., but about 2/5ths of the student body was,
>>at
>>any one time, not on campus, and not using campus facilities. In essence
>>that meant 2/5ths more income than the college had facilities to service.
>>It is
>>one of the key reasons the college grew gradually and successfully in the
>>40's and 50's, but maintained a budget that was in the black, and
>>produced
>>small reserves.
>>
>>
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> Are you referring to the 8-8-12-12 which was J.D. Dawson's favorite
> incarnation of co-op alternation? When we were revising the calendar in
> the early 90s, he tried very hard to sell that model to faculty.
>
> The challenges of co-op have changed significantly since the 50s and 60s,
> and therein is part of the problem:
>
> a) The cost of transportation has made travel to-and-from co-op a
> challenge for the 90% of Antioch students who are on financial aid.
>
> b) The cost of living in urban centers has increased dramatically, and
> co-op pay is no longer able to cover cost of living in most situations.
> While in my era we were able to actually save some cash on co-op and
> return to campus with startup money for the academic term, today, on
> average the co-op experience is a double whammy for students. They pay
> tuition to be working, and then end up paying for the living costs of the
> job as well.
>
> c) The cost of living in a safe place is proportionately higher than basic
> costs. These days I find students in New York living 7 to a 3 bedroom
> apartment, paying $2500-3,000 rent, with attendant transportation costs,
> but residing in a neighborhood that is relatively safe.
>
> d) Entry level jobs of the sort that used to fill half of the co-op list,
> have been eliminated by computer and internet technology and other
> automation.
>
> e) From the X-generation on, (and probably before), students have been
> seeking more than simply entry into the adult world of work; they've been
> seeking "meaningful" work, and many eschew filing and gopher positions in
> favor of work in which they feel they can make a difference.
>
> I think you're mistaken about the College's budget being in the black.
> If we look at the Record in 1951, we find out that
> McGregor was struggling with the need to slash the budget by $250-300k (a
> lot in those days) because of a predicted 25-30% drop in enrollment and
> the pressures of inflation. As a result, the Record predicted a tuition
> jump of 10% in 2 years, and the College abolished its Deans of Men and
> Women jobs, replacing them with CG responsibilities and committees. The
> saving grace for the College was the GI bill and a whole new market for
> student recruitment. The illusion of a "golden era" in which the College
> enjoyed stability and financial security is nostalgia at its best. The GI
> bill and the baby boom provided the only years of relative solvency.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
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