[Alumni-chat] Antioch Interdisciplinary First Year Curriculum

[Robert Devine]

Patrick,

Lighten up?  You pronounce judgement on the work of the faculty as
"half-assed" -- without even being familiar with the new curriculum -- and
then suggest that I lighten up because I have dared to point out your lack
of familiarity? And then you recycle the canonical story of Antioch's
failure(s).  The late Steven Gould said it best in a piece he wrote on
"Jim Bowie's Letter and Bill Buckner's Legs":

"In other words, and to summarize my principal theme in a phrase,
canonical stories predictably 'drive' facts into definite and distorted
pathways that validate the outlines and necessary components of these
archetypal tales.  We therefore fail to note important items in plain
sight, while we misread other facts by forcing them into preset mental
channels, even when we retain a buried memory of actual events."  

In the spirit of moving forward toward Antioch's future, I'd like to see
you respond to Mike Brower's questions.

Bob

Alumni Chat List <alumni-chat at w3.antioch.edu> on Monday, May 21, 2007 at
10:56 AM -0500 wrote:
>Oh Bob, lighten up.  Sure, you nailed me.  I know next
>to nothing about Antioch's newest new curriculum.  I
>do know something about Antioch though.  Based on past
>curriculum revisions, I give this one about 5 years. 
>And then, we'll hear about how the NEW new new ...
>curriculum is so innovative and sure to turn the
>school around.  800 by 1990!  Wait, what year is it? 
>Marx's glib remark about Napoleon III is fitting:
>History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as
>farce.
>
>--Patrick Cates
>
>
>
>--- Robert Devine <bdevine at antioch-college.edu> wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>> 
>> I'm guessing from your gloss that you don't know
>> much about the program
>> that the faculty put in place.  The integration of
>> experience, both co-op
>> and community service, the co-op communities, the
>> "place as text"
>> coursework, the on-line courses and the variety of
>> strategies faculty have
>> used to bridge and integrate the disciplines in the
>> Core courses make our
>> program anything but "a half-assed copy of Evergreen
>> College's core
>> programs".  Don't forget that Antioch's co-op
>> program was at first
>> considered a "copy" of existing pre-professional
>> cooperative work
>> programs.  In hindsight that proved to be a shallow
>> assessment.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Alumni Chat List <alumni-chat at w3.antioch.edu> on
>> Wednesday, May 16, 2007
>> at 2:36 PM -0500 wrote:
>> >Michael Brower rightly chastizes young Skooter:
>> >>   But I would not criticize Antioch on its
>> current
>> >> curriculum.
>> >
>> >Skooter, you should know better. Antioch worked
>> really
>> >hard to come up with a half-assed copy of Evergreen
>> >College's core programs.
>> >
>> >Hugs & kisses,
>> >
>> >Patrick Cates
>> >
>> >
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>> 
>> Robert H. Devine
>> College Professor
>> Antioch College
>> Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
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Robert H. Devine
College Professor
Antioch College
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387

Our lives begin to end
the day we become silent
about things that matter"

-  Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr