[Alumni-chat] Legal Fund Needs - by Yazz Allen '66

Matthew Baya matt at baya.net
Thu Aug 2 16:33:45 EDT 2007


> To clarify your opinion on what is acceptable posting: One may  
> mention one's own politics, but others may not respond to these  
> comments?

First off, I'm not the forum/list police, I was just stating my  
opinion. You are welcome to ignore it.  My message was meant for you,  
Travis and anyone else who felt so moved as to write about their  
support or opposition of candidates I couldn't care less about. I'd  
say the same thing about a message about Barak Obama vs Hilary  
Clinton etc. But again... just my opinion, you clearly disagree so  
feel free to ignore me, many wise people have :)

> Also, discussion of politics is not okay here, per you?

All I was saying was that I would prefer it if people could please  
don't get into a debate about non-Antioch politics on this list. I  
don't know who Gordon Smith is or what his politics are and really I  
don't care. If you and Travis want to argue things you are welcome  
to, i was just hoping you'd take it off list. Again, it was just my  
opinion, you are welcome to start a debate on this or evangelize the  
pro's & cons of various politcal issues and candidates, or the  
Unitarian faith vs Bahai if you want to. It's just that there's so  
much traffic on these lists right now I'd prefer stuff that has no  
relevance to Antioch not be added to the list.

> Reposting of others' articles is not permitted, even if they have  
> given permission since they are having trouble accessing this forum.

Are you referring to the posting of Yazz Allen's post that you posted  
here? No one said you weren't allowed to post that here, least to my  
knowledge. What I believe was said was that A) Ideally, the author of  
a work should be around to read & respond to responses to that work,  
and B) That since that article included copies of personal e-mail  
messages it was a violation of trust of the author of those messages.  
I never said you had to delete it, I suggested that, with Yazz's  
permission, you remove Ellen's e-mail messages. I don't see making  
suggestions on how to edit a post as censorship, but perhaps that's  
just me.

> I support an open and inclusive atmosphere on this forum. To go  
> further, I support eliciting of ideas from others. However  
> farfetched and annoying you may find other peoples' thoughts and  
> ideas.

I did indeed express my opinions about Yazz earlier. However I didn't  
say his posts shouldn't be here, in fact what I said was if his works  
were going to be posted here that I wanted him to be here to read the  
responses and respond to them as he saw fit. Again, this was my  
opinion, if I came across as the list master or someone in authority  
stating 'Thou Shalt Not...' I apologize. Ask anyone who has asked me  
to ban a person or edit someone elses post here, I am not one who  
prefers to EVER pick up that baton of authority if at all possible.  
If there ever comes a time where such actions are needed I'm going to  
suggest that a 'Forum CSB' be formed and let others make those  
decisions since I don't want to be in a power role here just because  
I help run the server.

> A bullying type of gang atmosphere on a forum can discourage the  
> more timid of us from contributing. It would be sad to see only the  
> most aggressive of us dominating the movement to save the school.

I apologize again if my post seemed oppressive. I was just trying to  
avoid more e-mail. Not trying to be a bully. I'm just tired and what  
I meant as a more humorous (AIGH! OFF TOPIC!) type post was clearly  
read as the list police laying down the law, so therefore me thinks  
it's time I go back to being behind the scenes again. <whimper>

Go forth and debate. Have fun.

-Matt '92



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